[referencer] Referencer development?

[Glen Shennan]

Hi,

I have just read with interest the most recent (I think?) archive posts
regarding the hand over and possible future of development of Referencer but
I note that there appears to have been no new posts in a couple of weeks.
Or have I just missed something? Is the development of Referencer
continuing? Did a host get chosen? I think it's the best reference
management program I've yet used, I've been using it for years, so it'd be
great to see it live. I'm happy to offer my limited best to help in this
regard but certainly don't have the expertise to do this myself.

Regards,

Glen S
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[Matej Urbas]

Hi Glen,

I think we are waiting for someone to take the current master (from
here: http://hg.icculus.org/jcspray/referencer/), open a new public
repository (by importing the master -- with the entire history) and give
developers push/committing rights.

However, I believe John wanted to merge everything into master before
relocating the repository or changing the VCS. I think this will prove a
bit tricky -- especially because other things are keeping John quite
busy.

I think merging before relocating/changing is a good option though.

So the first step should be that someone creates a temporary Mercurial
clone of the master, provide everyone on the mailing list (who has
anything to merge) with push rights and open a merge window (limited
amount of time) -- obviously, the latter is not necessary if we don't
migrate from Mercurial to any other VCS.

Anyways, I think we haven't yet decided which versioning system to use,
am I right?

Maybe this would be a good time to cast our votes. What do you think
people? Shall we start a poll on the mailing list and see which VCS gets
the most votes? We have to set an end date -- say end of March?

If you're okay with the poll idea, I'll send an e-mail titled
"Repository Relocation Poll" and explain what we vote for. Everyone
should bring forth arguments for their candidate VCS.

Note to developers: You can still do your development in your private
clones for the time being.

Best,
---
Matej

Post by Glen Shennan
Hi,
I have just read with interest the most recent (I think?) archive
posts regarding the hand over and possible future of development of
Referencer but I note that there appears to have been no new posts in
a couple of weeks. Or have I just missed something? Is the
development of Referencer continuing? Did a host get chosen? I think
it's the best reference management program I've yet used, I've been
using it for years, so it'd be great to see it live. I'm happy to
offer my limited best to help in this regard but certainly don't have
the expertise to do this myself.
Regards,
Glen S
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[John Spray]

Hey,

Good to see this discussion starting up again. To clarify my position, I don't mind whether something is merged before or after moving repositories. Hopefully no action is required from me other than closing down the old hosting once the new hosting is in place. So please don't wait for me!

John

Post by Matej Urbas
Hi Glen,
I think we are waiting for someone to take the current master (from
here: http://hg.icculus.org/jcspray/referencer/), open a new public
repository (by importing the master -- with the entire history) and give
developers push/committing rights.
However, I believe John wanted to merge everything into master before
relocating the repository or changing the VCS. I think this will prove a
bit tricky -- especially because other things are keeping John quite
busy.
I think merging before relocating/changing is a good option though.
So the first step should be that someone creates a temporary Mercurial
clone of the master, provide everyone on the mailing list (who has
anything to merge) with push rights and open a merge window (limited
amount of time) -- obviously, the latter is not necessary if we don't
migrate from Mercurial to any other VCS.
Anyways, I think we haven't yet decided which versioning system to use,
am I right?
Maybe this would be a good time to cast our votes. What do you think
people? Shall we start a poll on the mailing list and see which VCS gets
the most votes? We have to set an end date -- say end of March?
If you're okay with the poll idea, I'll send an e-mail titled
"Repository Relocation Poll" and explain what we vote for. Everyone
should bring forth arguments for their candidate VCS.
Note to developers: You can still do your development in your private
clones for the time being.
Best,
---
Matej

Post by Glen Shennan
Hi,
I have just read with interest the most recent (I think?) archive
posts regarding the hand over and possible future of development of
Referencer but I note that there appears to have been no new posts in
a couple of weeks. Or have I just missed something? Is the
development of Referencer continuing? Did a host get chosen? I think
it's the best reference management program I've yet used, I've been
using it for years, so it'd be great to see it live. I'm happy to
offer my limited best to help in this regard but certainly don't have
the expertise to do this myself.
Regards,
Glen S
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referencer at icculus.org
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[Mads Chr. Olesen]

Post by Matej Urbas
Anyways, I think we haven't yet decided which versioning system to
use, am I right?

No, we haven't.

I think an important part of choosing the VCS is also choosing the
hosting infrastructure. Launchpad/bzr gets my vote, in part because we
already have bugs there.

To get things moving, I have done the following:
* Converted the current master to a bzr branch [2]
* Converted our (me and Andreas') branch to a bzr branch [3]
* Created a referencer-devs team on launchpad [4]
* Verified that the branches work correctly as bzr branches, including
previous history

**
I am willing to merge any branches people might have, to the bzr branch,
such that we get a good trunk to start with. Please send me an e-mail
with your branch URLs.
**

I propose anyone who wants to be a member of the dev team also send me
an e-mail.

**
If there is a strong push for e.g. git, I urge someone to do set such
work in motion and make a similar proposal for merging existing
branches.
**

(On a side-note: the hg-git[1] plugin can be used to convert to the hg
repo. I have used the following conversion to get the bzr repos:
hg --hg-git-> git --bzr-branch-> bzr)

[1] http://hg-git.github.com/
[2] https://code.launchpad.net/~referencer-devs/referencer/trunk
[3]
https://code.launchpad.net/~referencer-devs/referencer/shiyee_andrease_changes
[4] https://launchpad.net/~referencer-devs

[António Lima]

Hello,

I haven't had much time lately to reply, however I have the gtk-builder
port ready but I don't know when do you guys think it's better to merge
it: before or after everyone's branches have been merged.

There are changes in the UI files that have been renamed from .glade
to .ui as required by gtk-builder.

Post by Mads Chr. Olesen
**
I am willing to merge any branches people might have, to the bzr branch,
such that we get a good trunk to start with. Please send me an e-mail
with your branch URLs.
**

My branch is only in my local machine. Maybe after all merges I can
submit a patch so someone can review and commit?

Regards,
Ant?nio Lima
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[Mads Chr. Olesen]

Post by António Lima
I haven't had much time lately to reply, however I have the
gtk-builder
port ready but I don't know when do you guys think it's better to merge
it: before or after everyone's branches have been merged.
There are changes in the UI files that have been renamed from .glade
to .ui as required by gtk-builder.

Post by Mads Chr. Olesen
**
I am willing to merge any branches people might have, to the bzr

branch,

Post by Mads Chr. Olesen
such that we get a good trunk to start with. Please send me an

e-mail

Post by Mads Chr. Olesen
with your branch URLs.
**

My branch is only in my local machine. Maybe after all merges I can
submit a patch so someone can review and commit?

Could you mail your patch to me, or even better: create a bug in
launchpad and attach it?

[Mads Chr. Olesen]

Post by António Lima

Post by Mads Chr. Olesen

Post by António Lima
I haven't had much time lately to reply, however I have the gtk-builder
port ready but I don't know when do you guys think it's better to merge
it: before or after everyone's branches have been merged.
There are changes in the UI files that have been renamed

from .glade

Post by Mads Chr. Olesen

Post by António Lima
to .ui as required by gtk-builder.

Post by Mads Chr. Olesen
**
I am willing to merge any branches people might have, to the bzr

branch,

Post by Mads Chr. Olesen
such that we get a good trunk to start with. Please send me an

e-mail

Post by Mads Chr. Olesen
with your branch URLs.
**

My branch is only in my local machine. Maybe after all merges I

can

Post by Mads Chr. Olesen

Post by António Lima
submit a patch so someone can review and commit?

Could you mail your patch to me, or even better: create a bug in
launchpad and attach it?

Please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/referencer/+bug/738813 for the
patch.

Thanks, I merged your patch into our branch at
https://code.launchpad.net/~referencer-devs/referencer/shiyee_andrease_changes

[Mads Chr. Olesen]

Please find attached my bundle of changes (relative to the current
master at icculus).
Thank you for doing this.

I converted your branch into
https://code.launchpad.net/~referencer-devs/referencer/matej_urbas_changes

It almost merges cleanly into our branch. I'll work on merging it soon.

I also added you and Antonio to the "Referencer Developers" team (which
only gives you the ability to change the branches currently).